Peed Al Sea Thingee FX2 with X0e Module

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Peed Al Sea Thingee FX2 with X0e Module

Post by Gilbert Y » Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:09 pm

Here are some pictures of a new power line filter

http://www.flickr.com/photos/17843311@N ... 671051504/

I am going to write up the details later tonight. Stay tune.

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Post by Gilbert Y » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:45 pm

Ok here is the scoop..........

When I first starting to design the X1e module last year, I was trying to address the newer nasty lower frequency noise from the power line. Then I was thinking what can I do with it to make a killer power line conditioner/filter. With the X1e module, a regular BC6000 and half a BC6020, on top of that a 3rd generation balanced transformer plus all kind of high frequency transient filters lay all over inside the BC60X1 plus a user replaceable surge protection module, this about sum up what the BC60X1 is about. We have sent this thing to a reviewer already but you really have to hear it to believe it.

X1e module is physically big, effective but big and also expensive, in relative term. I was waiting for someone to say what about "us". Ok, I didn't even wait for anyone to say that and I have started to think about what can I do for the entry level side of thing. Finally late last night I have figured out what to do. The result is the X0e module. You see, X1e is the big brother and X0e is the little brother. It pronounce Ex Zero Eeeee. I am sure everybody is going to call it a Ex Oh Eeee soon enough. I don't mind, call it whatever you want.

The full name of this new toys is "Peed Al Sea Thingee FX2 with X0e low frequency filter module". I try to put the whole name on the title and it was too long. I think the easiest way is to call it FX2 X0e 4 or 6 outlet.

The bottom line is with the X0e module, the FX2 is now able to cover a wider frequency spectrum of noise especially in the lower frequency region. At $495 for 6 outlet and $460 for 4 outlet, I have not able to find any competition out there at this price point or even at 3 to 4 times the price. I think you know what I cam going to say. It's the fancy box that cost so much money. We can make a fancy box too but then we will be one of them. No way!

We will keep it in a ABS pipe so we can make more people happy. Of course for those who insist of a fancy box, we can still make one for you. Just take more time and cost more.

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Post by Ice Man » Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:55 am

Hi Gilbert,

Are current BC6000/BC6020 and FX2 units able to upgrade to either the X1e or X0e modules, even if it means adding an additional or larger chassis?

Thanks,

IM

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Post by Gilbert Y » Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:57 am

Ice Man wrote:Hi Gilbert,

Are current BC6000/BC6020 and FX2 units able to upgrade to either the X1e or X0e modules, even if it means adding an additional or larger chassis?

Thanks,

IM
Yes, current models can be upgrade to either the X0e or X1e.

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Post by Gilbert Y » Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:58 am

A little more techie stuff. The dimensions of the this FX2 with X0e is 4" dia ABS pipe (4.5" OD) x 7" long approx. Weight approx 3 lbs.

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Post by Ice Man » Sun Jan 12, 2014 10:23 am

Gilbert, thank you for your prompt reply.

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Post by Gilbert Y » Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:35 pm

I will not be accused by anyone of abandoned our customers with no upgrade path to their existing equipment!!! Here is the proof.

X0e module with 18awg wire and wall plug in 2" x 5" long ABS pipe, CAD160.00
X0e module with 14awg non detachable power cord and one duplex (2 outlets) in 3" x 4.5" long ABS pipe, CAD195.00
X0e module with 14awg non detachable power cord and two duplex (4 outlets) in 4" x 4.5" long ABS pipe, CAD235.00

These are the things you can plug into your existing PLC Thingee or FX2 to add the X0e into the unit. If you are concern about losing an outlet, the second and the third options are to address that exact concern.

Let me know if these make any sense.

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Post by garyj » Mon Jan 13, 2014 3:51 pm

Hi. What would be entailed with upgrading a BC6000? thanks
gary

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Post by Gilbert Y » Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:20 pm

garyj wrote:Hi. What would be entailed with upgrading a BC6000? thanks
Upgrade for BC6000 and BC6020 is the X1e plug in module. The bigger brother of the X0e. If you have a BC6000, it can either upgrade via the Neutrik white jack plug in or internally. If you have a BC6020, the only way to upgrade is to via the plug in.

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Post by garyj » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:52 am

Gilbert Y wrote:
garyj wrote:Hi. What would be entailed with upgrading a BC6000? thanks
Upgrade for BC6000 and BC6020 is the X1e plug in module. The bigger brother of the X0e. If you have a BC6000, it can either upgrade via the Neutrik white jack plug in or internally. If you have a BC6020, the only way to upgrade is to via the plug in.
Thanks. Is there a sonic advantage of internal v. the plug-in for the bc6000? does using the plug limit current at all (in other words, does it make it more difficult to use with a power amp)? thanks again
gary

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Post by Gilbert Y » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:58 am

garyj wrote:
Gilbert Y wrote:
garyj wrote:Hi. What would be entailed with upgrading a BC6000? thanks
Upgrade for BC6000 and BC6020 is the X1e plug in module. The bigger brother of the X0e. If you have a BC6000, it can either upgrade via the Neutrik white jack plug in or internally. If you have a BC6020, the only way to upgrade is to via the plug in.
Thanks. Is there a sonic advantage of internal v. the plug-in for the bc6000? does using the plug limit current at all (in other words, does it make it more difficult to use with a power amp)? thanks again
As long as we keep the cable length to the minimum, there is very very little or no sonic difference between internal and external upgrades. Since the supply current to the power amps doesn't directly pass through those cable to the modules, there is no current limiting effect at all.

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Post by splityew » Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:27 pm

Does the X1e module plug externally into the BC6000si?
Also it would be nice to see a photo of this module if possible.

Thanks

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Post by Gilbert Y » Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:07 pm

splityew wrote:Does the X1e module plug externally into the BC6000si?
Also it would be nice to see a photo of this module if possible.

Thanks
If you have a BC6000Si, then it has to be external plug in. Si is in a ABS pipe and there is no way we can upgrade it internally.

The module will be in a 4" dia. x 6" long ABS pipe.

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Post by splityew » Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:13 pm

Gilbert Y wrote:
splityew wrote:Does the X1e module plug externally into the BC6000si?
Also it would be nice to see a photo of this module if possible.

Thanks
If you have a BC6000Si, then it has to be external plug in. Si is in a ABS pipe and there is no way we can upgrade it internally.

The module will be in a 4" dia. x 6" long ABS pipe.

Thanks Gilbert.

What's the cost of the module?

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Post by bjh » Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:29 pm

Had there been a discussion of the "newer nasty lower frequency noise" these modules address?

Apologies in advance if I missed (did a search but didn't find).

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